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Stock Market Daily Discussion Thread for October 2nd - 6th

Discussion in 'Stock Market Today' started by bigbear0083, Sep 29, 2017.

  1. bigbear0083

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    we're inching closer and closer to @Jrich's 2590 SPX target ... today's HOD brings us to within 37 handles.

    i'll be honest but i did not think we would be closing in on that target until at least by EOY ... and sure enough here we are not even halfway through what is historically the most volatile trading month of the entire year and we're less than 2% away from that 2590. this market just continues to amaze me. :eek:
     
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    crazy! i believe this will be the longest winning streak for the SPX since 2013? also this could be the 18th consecutive trading day that the SPX has closed within 0.50% of the previous day's close. that would the longest such streak since february of 1969. :eek:

    edit: actually we don't need to close within 0.50% today ... evidently 17 (which we did yesterday) was the longest since '69. :eek:
     
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    also, today will be the 6th consecutive ATH close for the SPX. last time we saw that? june of 1997. :eek:
     
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    Just remarkable strength for this market :eek: Seems like now flat day is the BTFD opportunity since we hardly get any decent red day :p
     
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    At this rate I think we might see the VIX in the 8s soon :p
     
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    haha, yeah i was thinking the same ... i wouldn't be surprise if that fed day spike low from a few months back of 8.84 gets tested at some point :p

    looks like we could have a new closing ATL on the vix today? :eek:
     
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    confirmed! vix previous ATL on a closing basis was 9.31 from 1993 ... today's close was 9.19

    the "intraday" ATL however is down at 8.84 which we set a few months back ... wonder if we break that at some point as well :p
     
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    US Stock Market Up 60%+ From Prior All-Time Highs
    Oct 5, 2017

    The long-term price chart for major US equity indices continues to amaze. Below are charts of the large-cap S&P 500 and Wilshire 5,000 (all US stocks) going back to 1990. At this point, the S&P 500 is up 62% from the all-time high it made back in 2007 prior to the Financial Crisis. The index needs to get just above 3,000 to mark a “double” from its prior highs.

    The Wilshire 5,000 is up even more from its prior bull market high made in 2007 at +67%.

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    While the price chart for the S&P 500 shows huge gains versus prior all-time highs, things aren’t nearly as strong for global equity markets. As shown below, the Bloomberg World Index (which still has a big US weighting) is indeed at new all-time highs, but it’s up just 13% from its 2007 bull market high.

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    And emerging markets aren’t even at new highs compared to 2007. As shown below, the EEM ETF is still down 18%!

    If you had to choose between US equities and international equities, which asset class will perform better over the next ten years?

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    I don't play that VIX much and I actually lost a little bit of money when I played it last time, but I think I would be interested to go long if it hit something like mid 8s :D
     
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    Not sure about the next 10 years but I think for the next couple of years, there is a good chance that international equities will outperform the US. Emerging market should continue to play catch-up as long as the US dollar doesn’t surge rapidly from here. Our market deserves a little bit of a premium but is still expensive, we could see a decent pullback next year if the Congress can’t get the tax reform done.
     
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    Restaurant stocks seem to be recovering. For the bottomfishers there's PLAY, which went back and filled a gap from 4 quarters ago. But I'd stay away from CMG and PZZA.
     
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    Seems like the winning streak for the SPX will end today :p Yields initially moved higher and helped the bank stocks after the jobs report showing better than expected wage growth, but seems like now they are saying that a lot of low wage workers couldn’t go to work due to the hurricanes, and the wage growth number Probably was inflated
     
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    dang, it was an impressive run! this will still go down as the longest winning streak of closing ATHs since 1997 :D

    although we're just a touch lower today, it's been really choppy all day it looks like. makes sense after the huge rip higher this week.

    a correction through "time" is just as good as price correction. could be seeing some sideways action for a while until the next leg higher i guess (of course absent of any crazy black swan events) :p
     
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    Earnings season coming soon, and I think earnings will be good enough to take this market higher. We will see :D
     
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